I just don't like competing against other players wallets. I had a mobile game for spending on, they would have some shiny goodies once in a while. I used to play something called battle nations, and spent money. Then candycrush bought them out and completely abandoned the game.


So I go to Gamelofts dungeon hunter series, and once my armor is about as high as it's going to get I spend 10$ on energy refills (yeah you use energy to play >_>) to earn enough points for an event armor, but AS IT TURNS OUT you have to at the same time compete against other peoples wallets on the leaderboard for only this event in order to upgrade the armor to any usefulness. So I may be done with that game shortly.


In EVE I am competing against multiple accounts, which is frustrating as all hell. I can say i'm glad we have plex to counter chinese isk sellers but alts are more OP than any amount of isk in the game.

We had this argument in another thread, and I won.

Multiboxing very much meets the definition of pay to win, it has nothing to do with intelligence or skill. You are literally shelling out real world cash to buy an advantage over other players. EVE is a game which is now utterly reliant on alts and multiboxing to be competitive. Alts mitigate risk and negate mechanical consequences (see -10 ganking alts) in a whole host of ways and those advantages are obtained simply by giving CCP more cash. Your statement is accurate if reversed - people use alts to make the game LESS competitive for themselves; they are a shortcut and a substitute for actual skill, intelligence, and cooperation with other players.

Obviously, this is the way EVE is and will remain. Much of the veteran player base is dependent on alts, and as another poster noted, there are too many menial tasks which don't make sense to be performed full-time by independent human players. This fact, however, hardly renders incorrect the complementary fact that the game of alts / multiboxing arms race results in a game where player skill both at the game and at interacting with others (which should be the deciding factor in an MMO) take a secondary place to the question of how much one is willing to invest per month to bring additional "units" into the equation in the EVE meta game that sometimes seems more reminiscent of an RTS than an MMO.

Telling people they're not good at the game because they didn't spend as much real world cash on alts/additional accounts as their competitor, is a fundamentally idiotic statement.

I can't tell is this a grrr Russians , grrr Alts or grrr Russian alts thread?

And buy alts. At the very least a scout/OGB capable alt, and then at least 2 logi/DPS alts if possible.

Same for blue lists, which are killing eve